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+Marshall plan for Moscow?
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+ 
+:date: 2022-10-14T16:56:26
+:category: faith
+:tags: politics, blogComment, Russia, Ukraine
+ 
+(my comments on `the Facebook comment`_ by Doug Hart)
+ 
+.. _`the Facebook comment`:
+    https://www.facebook.com/DouglasScottHart/posts/pfbid0ZnNzwoeMDJmJ2heYPsH6AeWyUWV422jkjXdc4222rcpxBTZrzmKozM12PDmih8jdl
+
+I really don’t feel any hatred towards the Moscow nation as whole
+(I don’t like to use the word Russia, Russian, because it is a
+contested term, and just its use makes the speaker agreeing to
+some parts of the Moscow narrative), but it doesn’t change
+anything on what Pavel_ was writing being true, and it especially
+doesn’t help me to think what to do when this war ends and Moscow
+will be defeated.
+
+.. _Pavel:
+   https://www.facebook.com/pavel.kazda
+
+Since 1989 there was that idea (I have first heard it by Mr.
+Havel’s speech in the US Congress, but to his defence he meant
+something different than what then actually happened) that in
+order to help the part of Europe behind the Iron Curtain we
+should help Russia/Soviet Union. One of many big fat lies which
+are pouring from the Moscow and pro-Moscow media is that the West
+never wanted to help Russia but only to enslave it and exploit
+it. It is just not true: I still remember the amount of
+celebration that even Russia is finally a normal country and
+outflow of good will and attempts to help them to be such normal
+country among other normal countries. 
+
+I have heard couple of time during the years even suggestions
+about “The Marshall Plan for Soviet Union/Russia”. Let me say
+couple of words why I don’t think it is a good idea, despite for
+what I said above my non-hatred for the Moscow nation and despite
+how much I think the original Marshall Plan was an awesome idea.
+
+My problem with this idea is that there are couple of substantial
+situation between Nazi Germany in 1945 and Moscow after the
+expected defeat in 2022/2023.
+
+It is always difficult and quite often rather problematic to
+transfer concepts from the individual level to the level of
+communities or whole nations, but let me do it here. I hope
+I won’t make much damage.
+
+For an individual to go through metanoia (or even for the good
+ol’ Ancient Greek catharsis) it is necessary for her to go
+through true repentance and especially an admittance of one’s
+guilt. I don’t know how well these concepts transfer to the
+national level (although, actually, post-Nazi Germany did the
+most of the admittance of one’s guilt I have ever heard about),
+but one thing which seems to me obvious in case of a nation in
+war is that it needs to be thoroughly defeated and that it stops
+fighting because of its own decision. And when I say thoroughly
+defeated I mean truly defeated, like the Red-flag-over-Reichstag
+defeated, like the Nürnberg-tribunal defeated, like the
+occupational-administration defeated. Stopping to fight, because
+it cannot continue and preparing for the next opportunity is
+certainly not it (which is how the Russian-Ukrainian War most
+likely ends). Nobody ever suggested as the best case scenario for
+this war in Ukraine anything more than Moscow completely
+withdrawing from the whole area of the occupied Ukraine to the
+borders of pre-2014 (i.e., all areas occupied after this past
+February, both DPR and LPR, and Crimea; I would also
+Transnistria, but that’s not necessary). Nobody ever suggested
+that Ukrainian-flag-on-Spasskaya-tower is the goal of anybody.
+
+The second difference from the Nazi Germany post-1945 is that it
+was completely destroyed and incapable of survival. There were
+serious voices claiming a possibility of famine. However the
+Ukrainian war ends, there will be no damage to the Moscow economy
+other than the self-inflicted one (and foreign sanctions, which
+are in effect self-inflicted ones as well), given that (aside
+from tiny exceptions around Belgorod and Kursk) there was no war
+on the Moscow territory. UNRRA was not just friendly gesture but
+largely a necessity. Nothing like that will happen in Moscowia
+today. If they stop war tomorrow, leave occupied territories,
+agree on some payment plan for the reparrations, do whatever it
+would be necessary to stop sanctions, Moscow will be in largely
+the same shape as it was before February 2022 (or February 2014,
+annexation of Crimea) and just without around a million of people
+(lost to war and emigration), foreign companies invested in
+Moscow, they could continue ahead.
+
+That’s just my few thoughts on the Marshall Plan for Russia
+2022/3.