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+title: Yet another on identity
+categories:
+ - computer
+ - identity
+ - Own cloud
+ - privacy
+date: 2012-08-08T00:31:05
+tags:
+---
+
+I am not sure I have written it somewhere here, but I have been
+persuaded that identity is the most important and yet unresolvable issue
+circling around Internet `since at least 1997`_ (don’t bother to read
+the paper, it is pretty poorly written and I didn’t have courage to
+state my conclusions clearly). The paper was about legal aspects of
+EDI_ (if you know what it is, then you are probably in 0. 00001 % of
+population), but during the research I found that whole idea of
+Internet-wide EDI is basically dead not because of technological
+challenges (they are real, but probably solvable), but because of lack
+of universal government-backed legally binding identity system, and such
+system will be never be introduced, while `electorate of some
+countries`_ opposes any attempt to introduce any `system of IDs`_. Of
+course, I don’t want to say that USA is the only country opposing
+identity documents, that they don’t have good reasons for their
+rejection of IDs, or that REAL ID Act wasn’t horribly mangled (in the
+post-9/11 era I wouldn’t expect anything else). Just that without
+well-functioning IDs we will never experience **full** potential what
+Internet can bring to us.
+
+This experience is probably the reason why I was always skeptical to all
+attempts to create Internet based identity systems (mainly OpenID), and
+why I stay skeptical when I read `this post by Tim Bray`_. There are
+problems which are not technological, but political/social, and such
+problems cannot be resolved by improvements in technology, although most
+programmers never believe it and will try to develop new and new
+technology to solve it. I don’t believe Google will ever introduce any
+system of Internet-wide identity which they would be willing to accept
+even from other identity providers. Of course, Google (and Facebook,
+Twitter, and others) will pretend that OAuth is such system, because it
+allows innocent third party website to give up all their most valuable
+data to them. But until I will be able to login to GMail with my
+identity from Yahoo/Facebook, I won’t believe that Google will be a
+honest member of the identity community. Many people on that webpage (me
+included) asked Tim about BrowserID_. I am afraid that’s one things he
+is not allowed to talk about. When Facebook/Google/Yahoo/AOL/Microsoft
+killed by turning their blind eye OpenID, I don’t see any reasons why we
+should expect any other attitude towards BrowserID. Which doesn’t mean
+that BrowserID is doomed, but that we should expect it to be just
+limited tool for independent openweb loving parties.
+
+.. _`since at least 1997`:
+ http://matej.ceplovi.cz/clanky/edi-mime.pdf
+.. _EDI:
+ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%20Electronic_Data_Interchange
+.. _`electorate of some countries`:
+ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_document#United_States
+.. _`system of IDs`:
+ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/REAL_ID_Act
+.. _`this post by Tim Bray`:
+ http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2012/06/29/Becoming-an-Identity-guy
+.. _BrowserID:
+ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrowserID