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diff --git a/faith/sharks-jellyfish-bad-news.rst b/faith/sharks-jellyfish-bad-news.rst new file mode 100644 index 0000000..e5cdab3 --- /dev/null +++ b/faith/sharks-jellyfish-bad-news.rst @@ -0,0 +1,133 @@ +Sharks, jellyfish, and the bad news +################################### + +:status: draft +:date: 1970-01-01T00:00:00 +:category: faith +:tags: LGBT, homosexuality, blue ocean, centered faith + +Couple of comments while reading `this blogpost`_ by Dave Schmelzer and +linked `position paper of Vineyard USA on LGBT issues`_. + +.. _`this blogpost`: + http://theblueoceanblog.org/jesus-good-hijacked-todays-controversies/ +.. _`position paper of Vineyard USA on LGBT issues`: + http://vineyardusa.org/site/files/PositionPaper-VineyardUSA-Pastoring_LGBT_Persons.pdf + +First completely nonsensical nitpick: as far as I know (and I may +be wrong, but if I recall correctly I read it in some book by +Philipe Cousteau) sharks have to swim because they don’t have +operculum so they have to make water flow through their gills, +otherwise they suffocate_ . Not that it would matter that much +for Dave’s argument. + +.. _suffocate: + https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090820085118AAaL3jP + +But to the more interesting stuff. From the position paper: + + William Shakespeare in his play, Twelfth Night, said this: Be + not afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve + greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them. + +This is funny. Did they actually read the Twelfth Night or did +they see it in a theater? Do they recognize that this whole +quotation was not meant seriously but just as a bait for +Malvolio? And if we ignore this strangeness, when following their +argument, they could say just as easily that they want to discuss +LGBT issues, because everybody else does it. I am not sure that +it is the right reason, but anyway. + +OK, this is too long. I won’t have time to read all ninety +pages. So back to Dave. + +I completely accept his argument that we should live in the +centered set, but it seems to me it is a bit difficult to see the +proper point of the post without getting lost in the juicy world +of the relationship between homosexuality and the Christian +faith. One strikingly interesting thing (at least for me) is that +the whole post is completely meta-discussion. It does not discuss +the Dave’s actual opinion on homosexuality itself at all. It +seems that Dave has some homosexual friends, so he has to have at +least some positive attitude towards them, but there is no +biblical discussion on the matter itself. I have missed this when +reading the post for the first time, and I got completely lost in +the fiery discussion of the point which was not there at all. + +Let me thus start from somewhere else. We just returned a couple +of days ago from a very friendly visit to our very conservative +Christian friends. Although I tried to avoid it, I made some +unfortunate comment about the Muslims and Christians praying +together in my “local” Catholic church (of course, not being +a Catholic makes this term a bit nonsensical). The result was an +explosion of rather unbelievably harsh and ungrateful +declarations about Muslims, among which the persuasion that +Muslims and Christians praying together is just a masquerade for +Muslims to achieve their dominance […]. It seemed to me very +much like the antisemitism by Chesterton (or any proper +Englishman of that time, I suppose). We can see how these +attitudes could lead to Auschwitz, but it is unfair to judge them +through the lenses of gas chambers, because they really did not +know about the Holocaust, and they would be quite certainly +against it with all their might. So, most of what my Christian +friends talk vis-a-vis Muslims is absolutely horrible and +despicable, but most of these people know nothing about the +racism and they have never seen it in its most ugly ends, so they +still feel free to play with those most horrible ideas, not +knowing that it is an dynamite just ready to explode. + +However, only now, when I read the Dave’s post for the second +time, I have recognized how contemporary and acutely needed it is +now. And how much, by living among the bounded Christians, I lost +a bit of the healthy perspective. + +security of the bounded set + +--------------------------- + +One of the most important things which helped me to understand my +attitude towards homosexuality was proper understanding of what +the sin is. + +I understand the centered set thinking correctly, than obvious +interdicts in the Bible should not be understood as zaps (and +even less used as such to zap others), but as an advice why +following the banned path will lead out of the center, Jesus, and +the life in fullness (John 10:10). So, we should not steal +because God would smite us, but because although it may seem +tempting it is not a blessed God’s path to achieving fullness +of life. + +------------------------- + + When orders are issued in other spheres of life there is no + doubt whatever of their meaning. If a father sends a child to + bed, the boy knows at once what he has to do. But suppose he + has picked up smattering of pseudo-theology. In that case he + would argue more or less like this: “Father tells me to go + to bed, but he really means that I am tired, and he does not + want me to be tired. I can overcome my tiredness just as well + if I go out and play. Therefore though father tells me to go + to bed, he really means: ‘Go out and play’.” If a child + tried such arguments on his father or a citizen on his + government, they would both meet with a kind of language they + could not fail to understand–in short they would be + punished. Are we to treat the commandment of Jesus + differently from other orders and exchange single-minded + obedience for downright disobedience? How could that be + possible! + + -- Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship, chapter. III. + +--------------------------- + +Theological perspective is proposed and wins the day. It does +just great for however long, but then its blind spots become +evident and there’s pushback about it. The pushback ends up +being too corrective, an over-reaction, so it too ultimately gets +pushed back with something that itself is too corrective and +over-reacting. And there lies the history of theology. + +Unfortunately, theology matters. And people who create bad +theology and a lot of mess around themselves are usually not bad +people. Liberal theology ... |