diff options
author | Matěj Cepl <mcepl@cepl.eu> | 2015-09-28 17:37:59 +0200 |
---|---|---|
committer | Matěj Cepl <mcepl@cepl.eu> | 2015-09-28 17:39:41 +0200 |
commit | 4516e2d9eb27e985be3c6fe3144323085562c497 (patch) | |
tree | 2bf7962f402c7aa11c505e0d53dab98a42ad24e4 | |
parent | 8788ce19e9be3757cd91db959178519b9df71f21 (diff) | |
download | blog-source-4516e2d9eb27e985be3c6fe3144323085562c497.tar.gz |
Reformat sharks-jellyfish-bad-news (still a draft).
-rw-r--r-- | drafts/sharks-jellyfish-bad-news.rst | 113 |
1 files changed, 59 insertions, 54 deletions
diff --git a/drafts/sharks-jellyfish-bad-news.rst b/drafts/sharks-jellyfish-bad-news.rst index c162a43..d5bb455 100644 --- a/drafts/sharks-jellyfish-bad-news.rst +++ b/drafts/sharks-jellyfish-bad-news.rst @@ -14,11 +14,12 @@ linked `position paper of Vineyard USA on LGBT issues`_. .. _`position paper of Vineyard USA on LGBT issues`: http://vineyardusa.org/site/files/PositionPaper-VineyardUSA-Pastoring_LGBT_Persons.pdf -First completely nonsensical nitpick: as far as I know (and I may be -wrong, but if I recall correctly, I read in some book by Philipe -Cousteau) sharks have to swim because they don’t have operculum so they -have to make water flow through their gills, otherwise they suffocate_ . -Not that it would matter that much for Dave’s argument. +First completely nonsensical nitpick: as far as I know (and I may +be wrong, but if I recall correctly, I read in some book by +Philipe Cousteau) sharks have to swim because they don’t have +operculum so they have to make water flow through their gills, +otherwise they suffocate_ . Not that it would matter that much +for Dave’s argument. .. _suffocate: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090820085118AAaL3jP @@ -27,67 +28,71 @@ But to the more interesting stuff. From the position paper: - William Shakespeare in his play, Twelfth Night, said this: Be not - afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve greatness, and - some have greatness thrust upon them. + William Shakespeare in his play, Twelfth Night, said this: Be + not afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve + greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them. -This is funny. Did they read Twelfth Night? Do they recognize that whole -this quotation was not meant seriously but just as a bait for Malvolio? -And if we ignore this strangeness, when following their argument, they -could say just as easily that they want to discuss LGBT issues, because -everybody else does it. I am not sure that it is the right reason, but -anyway. +This is funny. Did they actually read or see the Twelfth Night? +Do they recognize that whole this quotation was not meant +seriously but just as a bait for Malvolio? And if we ignore this +strangeness, when following their argument, they could say just +as easily that they want to discuss LGBT issues, because +everybody else does it. I am not sure that it is the right +reason, but anyway. -OK, this is too long. I won’t have time to read all ninety pages. So -back to Dave. +OK, this is too long. I won’t have time to read all ninety +pages. So back to Dave. -I completely accept his argument that we should live in the centered -set, but it seems to me he still misses the point. What should I say to -my homosexual friend (or for me more likely to some strong supporter of -gay rights, I don’t know much anybody who would be openly homosexual)? -And what to do with 1.Timothy 1:10 or 1.Corinthians 6:9f? If +I completely accept his argument that we should live in the +centered set, but it seems to me he still misses the point. What +should I say to my homosexual friend (or for me more likely to +some strong supporter of gay rights, I don’t know much anybody +who would be openly homosexual)? And what to do with 1.Timothy +1:10 or 1.Corinthians 6:9f? If -One of the most important things which helped me to understand my attitude -towards homosexuality was proper understaning of what the sin is. +One of the most important things which helped me to understand my +attitude towards homosexuality was proper understaning of what +the sin is. I understand the centered set thinking correctly, than obvious -interdicts in the Bible should not be understood as zaps (and even less -used as such to zap others), but as an advice why following the banned -path will lead out of the center, Jesus, and the life in fullness (John -10:10). So, we should not steal because God would smite us, but because -although it may seem tempting it is not a blessed God’s path to -achieving fullness of life. - - +interdicts in the Bible should not be understood as zaps (and +even less used as such to zap others), but as an advice why +following the banned path will lead out of the center, Jesus, and +the life in fullness (John 10:10). So, we should not steal +because God would smite us, but because although it may seem +tempting it is not a blessed God’s path to achieving fullness +of life. ------------------------- - When orders are issued in other spheres of life there is no doubt - whatever of their meaning. If a father sends a child to bed, the boy - knows at once what he has to do. But suppose he has picked up - smattering of pseudo-theology. In that case he would argue more or - less like this: “Father tells me to go to bed, but he really means - that I am tired, and he does not want me to be tired. I can overcome - my tiredness just as well if I go out and play. Therefore though - father tells me to go to bed, he really means: ‘Go out and play’.” - If a child tried such arguments on his father or a citizen on his - government, they would both meet with a kind of language they could - not fail to understand–in short they would be punished. Are we to - treat the commandment of Jesus differently from other orders and - exchange single-minded obedience for downright disobedience? How - could that be possible! + When orders are issued in other spheres of life there is no + doubt whatever of their meaning. If a father sends a child to + bed, the boy knows at once what he has to do. But suppose he + has picked up smattering of pseudo-theology. In that case he + would argue more or less like this: “Father tells me to go + to bed, but he really means that I am tired, and he does not + want me to be tired. I can overcome my tiredness just as well + if I go out and play. Therefore though father tells me to go + to bed, he really means: ‘Go out and play’.” If a child + tried such arguments on his father or a citizen on his + government, they would both meet with a kind of language they + could not fail to understand–in short they would be + punished. Are we to treat the commandment of Jesus + differently from other orders and exchange single-minded + obedience for downright disobedience? How could that be + possible! -- Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship, chapter. III. --------------------------- -Theological perspective is proposed and wins the day. It does just great -for however long, but then its blind spots become evident and there’s -pushback about it. The pushback ends up being too corrective, an -over-reaction, so it too ultimately gets pushed back with something that -itself is too corrective and over-reacting. And there lies the history -of theology. +Theological perspective is proposed and wins the day. It does +just great for however long, but then its blind spots become +evident and there’s pushback about it. The pushback ends up +being too corrective, an over-reaction, so it too ultimately gets +pushed back with something that itself is too corrective and +over-reacting. And there lies the history of theology. -Unfortunately, theology matters. And people who create bad theology and -a lot of mess around themselves are usually not bad people. Liberal -theology ... +Unfortunately, theology matters. And people who create bad +theology and a lot of mess around themselves are usually not bad +people. Liberal theology ... |