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authorMatěj Cepl <mcepl@cepl.eu>2015-09-28 17:37:59 +0200
committerMatěj Cepl <mcepl@cepl.eu>2015-09-28 17:39:41 +0200
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@@ -14,11 +14,12 @@ linked `position paper of Vineyard USA on LGBT issues`_.
.. _`position paper of Vineyard USA on LGBT issues`:
http://vineyardusa.org/site/files/PositionPaper-VineyardUSA-Pastoring_LGBT_Persons.pdf
-First completely nonsensical nitpick: as far as I know (and I may be
-wrong, but if I recall correctly, I read in some book by Philipe
-Cousteau) sharks have to swim because they don’t have operculum so they
-have to make water flow through their gills, otherwise they suffocate_ .
-Not that it would matter that much for Dave’s argument.
+First completely nonsensical nitpick: as far as I know (and I may
+be wrong, but if I recall correctly, I read in some book by
+Philipe Cousteau) sharks have to swim because they don’t have
+operculum so they have to make water flow through their gills,
+otherwise they suffocate_ . Not that it would matter that much
+for Dave’s argument.
.. _suffocate:
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090820085118AAaL3jP
@@ -27,67 +28,71 @@ But to the more interesting stuff.
From the position paper:
- William Shakespeare in his play, Twelfth Night, said this: Be not
- afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve greatness, and
- some have greatness thrust upon them.
+ William Shakespeare in his play, Twelfth Night, said this: Be
+ not afraid of greatness: some are born great, some achieve
+ greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them.
-This is funny. Did they read Twelfth Night? Do they recognize that whole
-this quotation was not meant seriously but just as a bait for Malvolio?
-And if we ignore this strangeness, when following their argument, they
-could say just as easily that they want to discuss LGBT issues, because
-everybody else does it. I am not sure that it is the right reason, but
-anyway.
+This is funny. Did they actually read or see the Twelfth Night?
+Do they recognize that whole this quotation was not meant
+seriously but just as a bait for Malvolio? And if we ignore this
+strangeness, when following their argument, they could say just
+as easily that they want to discuss LGBT issues, because
+everybody else does it. I am not sure that it is the right
+reason, but anyway.
-OK, this is too long. I won’t have time to read all ninety pages. So
-back to Dave.
+OK, this is too long. I won’t have time to read all ninety
+pages. So back to Dave.
-I completely accept his argument that we should live in the centered
-set, but it seems to me he still misses the point. What should I say to
-my homosexual friend (or for me more likely to some strong supporter of
-gay rights, I don’t know much anybody who would be openly homosexual)?
-And what to do with 1.Timothy 1:10 or 1.Corinthians 6:9f? If
+I completely accept his argument that we should live in the
+centered set, but it seems to me he still misses the point. What
+should I say to my homosexual friend (or for me more likely to
+some strong supporter of gay rights, I don’t know much anybody
+who would be openly homosexual)? And what to do with 1.Timothy
+1:10 or 1.Corinthians 6:9f? If
-One of the most important things which helped me to understand my attitude
-towards homosexuality was proper understaning of what the sin is.
+One of the most important things which helped me to understand my
+attitude towards homosexuality was proper understaning of what
+the sin is.
I understand the centered set thinking correctly, than obvious
-interdicts in the Bible should not be understood as zaps (and even less
-used as such to zap others), but as an advice why following the banned
-path will lead out of the center, Jesus, and the life in fullness (John
-10:10). So, we should not steal because God would smite us, but because
-although it may seem tempting it is not a blessed God’s path to
-achieving fullness of life.
-
-
+interdicts in the Bible should not be understood as zaps (and
+even less used as such to zap others), but as an advice why
+following the banned path will lead out of the center, Jesus, and
+the life in fullness (John 10:10). So, we should not steal
+because God would smite us, but because although it may seem
+tempting it is not a blessed God’s path to achieving fullness
+of life.
-------------------------
- When orders are issued in other spheres of life there is no doubt
- whatever of their meaning. If a father sends a child to bed, the boy
- knows at once what he has to do. But suppose he has picked up
- smattering of pseudo-theology. In that case he would argue more or
- less like this: “Father tells me to go to bed, but he really means
- that I am tired, and he does not want me to be tired. I can overcome
- my tiredness just as well if I go out and play. Therefore though
- father tells me to go to bed, he really means: ‘Go out and play’.”
- If a child tried such arguments on his father or a citizen on his
- government, they would both meet with a kind of language they could
- not fail to understand–in short they would be punished. Are we to
- treat the commandment of Jesus differently from other orders and
- exchange single-minded obedience for downright disobedience? How
- could that be possible!
+ When orders are issued in other spheres of life there is no
+ doubt whatever of their meaning. If a father sends a child to
+ bed, the boy knows at once what he has to do. But suppose he
+ has picked up smattering of pseudo-theology. In that case he
+ would argue more or less like this: “Father tells me to go
+ to bed, but he really means that I am tired, and he does not
+ want me to be tired. I can overcome my tiredness just as well
+ if I go out and play. Therefore though father tells me to go
+ to bed, he really means: ‘Go out and play’.” If a child
+ tried such arguments on his father or a citizen on his
+ government, they would both meet with a kind of language they
+ could not fail to understand–in short they would be
+ punished. Are we to treat the commandment of Jesus
+ differently from other orders and exchange single-minded
+ obedience for downright disobedience? How could that be
+ possible!
-- Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship, chapter. III.
---------------------------
-Theological perspective is proposed and wins the day. It does just great
-for however long, but then its blind spots become evident and there’s
-pushback about it. The pushback ends up being too corrective, an
-over-reaction, so it too ultimately gets pushed back with something that
-itself is too corrective and over-reacting. And there lies the history
-of theology.
+Theological perspective is proposed and wins the day. It does
+just great for however long, but then its blind spots become
+evident and there’s pushback about it. The pushback ends up
+being too corrective, an over-reaction, so it too ultimately gets
+pushed back with something that itself is too corrective and
+over-reacting. And there lies the history of theology.
-Unfortunately, theology matters. And people who create bad theology and
-a lot of mess around themselves are usually not bad people. Liberal
-theology ...
+Unfortunately, theology matters. And people who create bad
+theology and a lot of mess around themselves are usually not bad
+people. Liberal theology ...