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+Hi,
+
+ > That's not a changelog, that's a commit log of every source-level
+ > commit made. Far too much detail for a changelog of
+ > *user-visible* changes associated with a release.
+
+I think I agree with both of you. :) It seems like it's both true that
+there's no point in keeping a GNU-style ChangeLog these days, and that
+if we make a release we should write an announce mail that directly
+mentions new user-visible changes as well as attaching the commit log.
+That smaller list of highly user-visible changes could live in NEWS,
+or in the announce mail, or both.
+
+ > I agree that's a problem. I think the solution is to start making
+ > releases, with specific version strings, as source tarballs.
+
+I'm happy to do this if people think it would be useful, and I don't
+yet have a strong opinion on whether the releases should come with
+version numbers or timestamps.
+
+Thanks,
+
+- Chris.
+--
+Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
+
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+Alt-id: <m3k52bfgf0.fsf@pullcord.laptop.org>
+
+
+Author: Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
+
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+Content-type: text/plain
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+Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:11:31 -0400
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+In-reply-to: ffbf5ac9-e2f5-47ab-9c3c-33989c81ad42
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