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+[This time to the list]
+
+* W. Trevor King (wking@drexel.edu) wrote:
+> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 03:29:42PM +0100, James Rowe wrote:
+> > Isn't there a bzr web interface that at least supports creating
+> > tarballs/zips? It is pretty standard functionality for most other VCS'
+> > web interfaces so I'm guessing there must be, but loggerhead seems not
+> > to support it.
+>
+> Unfortunately, people would still need bzr to install the versioned source:
+>
+> libbe/_version.py:
+> bzr version-info --format python > $@
+
+ I hadn't even seen that change go in. The last upstream change in the
+version I have installed locally was by you on 2008-11-24.
+
+> So you'll need a "release" target in the makefile to build a bzr-less
+> install. While you're at it, you should probably compile the manpage
+> too to remove the docbook-to-man dependency.
+
+ Maybe for others. Our packages just don't have the manpage as it is only
+the "be help" text reformatted, the easy option is sometimes the right
+one :) Also, I've just noticed that it has even less documentation in
+the bzr tree[1] making its installation much less compelling unless your
+packaging rules require a man page like Debians.
+
+ Out of curiosity why is the Makefile being used for this stuff anyway?
+It is going to make it difficult to build locally when we finally get
+around to merging. Examples: If distutils was being used exclusively it
+would fix the #! lines in xml/*. We'd be able to point Python
+$version_of_the_day at setup.py instead of having to sed the Makefile or
+run setup and manually install other files.
+
+Thanks,
+
+James
+ 1. http://pullcord.laptop.org:4000/revision/314.1.15/doc/be.1.sgml