Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Joerg Dietrich Newsgroups: gmane.network.leafnode Subject: Re: status of leafnode 2 and how to upgrade from leafnode 1 Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:15:54 +0200 Lines: 60 Approved: news@gmane.org Message-ID: <20060816141554.GA30999@leviathan.homedns.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1155748787 14017 80.91.229.2 (16 Aug 2006 17:19:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 17:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: leafnode-list-bounces+gnl-leafnode-list=m.gmane.org-DcxqERLcJkQeCZckdHr3IYGCWcDMi6xaD8jGkxKTr40@public.gmane.org Wed Aug 16 19:19:42 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gnl-leafnode-list@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de ([129.217.163.1]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GDP3I-0004At-B1 for gnl-leafnode-list@m.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:19:36 +0200 Original-Received: from krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E257285FB49 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:19:35 +0200 (CEST) X-Original-To: leafnode-list-DcxqERLcJkQeCZckdHr3IYGCWcDMi6xaD8jGkxKTr40@public.gmane.org Delivered-To: leafnode-list-DcxqERLcJkQeCZckdHr3IYGCWcDMi6xaD8jGkxKTr40@public.gmane.org Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692D185FB46 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:19:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from krusty.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (krusty [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 09436-03 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:19:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from nx5.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (nx5.HRZ.Uni-Dortmund.DE [129.217.131.21]) by mail.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9450585FE4E for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:19:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com (ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com [205.158.62.199]) by nx5.hrz.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E9BA4AA5F7 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:54:36 +0200 (MET DST) Original-Received: (qmail 12849 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2006 14:16:00 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO leviathan.homedns.org) (joerg-FR+SGtcfUjXk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org@80.136.237.253) by ws6-3.us4.outblaze.com with SMTP; 16 Aug 2006 14:15:58 -0000 Original-Received: from leviathan.homedns.org (nobody@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leviathan.homedns.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id k7GEFs5l031057 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:15:55 +0200 Original-Received: (from joerg@localhost) by leviathan.homedns.org (8.13.7/8.12.11/Submit) id k7GEFsZg031053 for leafnode-list-DcxqERLcJkQeCZckdHr3IYGCWcDMi6xaD8jGkxKTr40@public.gmane.org; Wed, 16 Aug 2006 16:15:54 +0200 Original-To: leafnode-list-DcxqERLcJkQeCZckdHr3IYGCWcDMi6xaD8jGkxKTr40@public.gmane.org Mail-Followup-To: leafnode-list-DcxqERLcJkQeCZckdHr3IYGCWcDMi6xaD8jGkxKTr40@public.gmane.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.001 tagged_above=0 required=7 tests=[UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001] X-Spam-Level: X-BeenThere: leafnode-list-DcxqERLcJkQeCZckdHr3IYGCWcDMi6xaD8jGkxKTr40@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on the Leafnode Usenet software package List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: leafnode-list-bounces+gnl-leafnode-list=m.gmane.org-DcxqERLcJkQeCZckdHr3IYGCWcDMi6xaD8jGkxKTr40@public.gmane.org Errors-To: leafnode-list-bounces+gnl-leafnode-list=m.gmane.org-DcxqERLcJkQeCZckdHr3IYGCWcDMi6xaD8jGkxKTr40@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.network.leafnode:3524 Archived-At: On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:14:01AM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote: > fetches group articles faster (thanks to pipelining ARTICLE or > HEAD/BODY commands). Which was a big issue when Cornelius and I worked on this in 1999/2000 when many people still had expensive dial-up connections that were not fully utilized by fetchnews. > Official mail2news gatewaying isn't integrated and probably suffers from > the usual "Message-ID are unique per server" problem that impairs messages > sent to several lists at the same time. I don't know the state of J=F6rg > Dietrich's prior works or views on this either. I run a mail2news gateway for three or four mailing lists on my computer. I wrote a python programme for this. It is available from . The program lacks documentation and testing by a wider audience, which is the reason for its "alpha status". However, the program has been working for me for the last 2 years without any need of intervention. But I have very little feedback from others. Mail2news.py tries to circumvent the problem of unique Message-IDs by cross-posting to newsgroups corresponding to the mailing lists the original mail was sent to. Because cross-mailing does not happen with the few mailing list I am subscribed to this feature is anything but well tested. > It is alpha because I don't care too much for compatibility between > leafnode-2 versions until I'm happy with it (not much work has been done > to leafnode-2 in the past weeks since I've been busy with difficult > fetchmail bug fixes). Else, I know of few bugs that hinder daily > personal use and am usually quick to fix bugs given the report is > substantiated (for instance, with a stack backtrace). As someone who contributed a substantial amount of code in the past, I find this a very frustrating status. Since 2000 leafnode-2 provides significant improved features over leafnode-1. I have been using leafnode-2 in production mode for four or five years now. I really do not understand what keeps you from releasing it instead of keeping it in alpha stage for 5 years and still supporting leafnode-1, which has been technically obsoleted by many improvements in leafnode-2. Cheers, Jo:rg -- = ---=3D=3D=3D Encrypted mail preferred. Key-ID: 1024D/2B693EBF =3D= =3D=3D--- Fortune cookie of the day: A clash of doctrine is not a disaster -- it is an opportunity. -- = _______________________________________________ leafnode-list mailing list leafnode-list-DcxqERLcJkQeCZckdHr3IYGCWcDMi6xaD8jGkxKTr40@public.gmane.org https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list http://leafnode.sourceforge.net/