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- <B>Matej Cepl</B>
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-<PRE>Hi,
-
-so now the real problem I am dealing with -- mail2news bidirectional
-gateway.
-
-On leafnode 1.* I used mail2news patch by Nikita Youschenko
-(<A HREF="http://zigzag.lvk.cs.msu.su/leafnode/">http://zigzag.lvk.cs.msu.su/leafnode/</A> -- I wonder something like that has
-not been included in leafnode 2.*, it would make great fit IMHO, but I know
-I am not a programmer, and I won't do it, so I shut up on this), so I have
-to install some mail2news gateway. I tried pygn (just because it is
-packaged for Debian; any other suggestions?), but I haven't managed to
-configured it yet. This is what I did (with expected workflow):
-
-1) mail is read by my kmail (user matej) and if it is list message which
-should be gatewayed to news, it is bounced to <A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">news at localhost</A> -- this step
-has been working perfectly for couple of years and it has not been changed.
-
-2) news' .procmailrc contains a lot of rules like this (for news2mail):
-
-ARG = $1
-
-:<i>0 bh:
-</I>* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-boston
-|<i> pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t <A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">discuss at blu.org</A> -s <A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">ceplm at seznam.cz</A>
-</I>
-and like this (for mail2news):
-
-:<i>0 bh:
-</I>* ^List-Id:.*pkg-lyx-devel.lists.alioth.debian.org
-|<i> pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.lyx-debian
-</I>
-/etc/news/local.groups is this:
-
-local.mail.comp.cambridge m Cambridge (UK) LUG
-local.mail.comp.boston m Boston LUG
-local.mail.comp.surrey m Surrey LUG
-local.mail.comp.bosto-admin m Boston admins
-local.mail.comp.oxford m Oxford LUG
-local.mail.comp.lyx-debian m Maintainer of LyX on Debian
-local.mail.comp.scottish m Scottish LUG
-local.mail.comp.northwales m NWales LUG
-local.mail.comp.southwales m SWales LUG
-local.mail.comp.czdebian m Diskuse &#269;esk&#253;ch u&#382;ivatel Debianu
-local.mail.vcfc.random m Random list z VCFC
-local.mail.vcfc.branik m Diskuse &#268;CE Bran&#237;k
-local.mail.soc.oakeshott m Conversation -- discussion about Oakeshott
-local.mail.soc.read-only m r&#367;zn&#225; RO sociologie
-local.mail.zpravy m NG pro r&#367;zn&#233; zpravodajstv&#237;
-local.test m testing group
-
-and this is /etc/news/moderators (w/o comments):
-
-## Public hierarchies with exceptions.
-fido7.*:%<A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">s at fido7.ru</A>
-ffm.*:%<A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">s at moderators.arcornews.de</A>
-fj.*:%<A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">s at moderators.fj-news.org</A>
-medlux.*:%<A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">s at news.medlux.ru</A>
-nl.*:%<A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">s at nl.net</A>
-relcom.*:%<A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">s at moderators.relcom.ru</A>
-ukr.*:%<A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">s at sita.kiev.ua</A>
-
-# local groups are moderated by <A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">news at localhost</A>
-local.*:news+%<A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">s at localhost</A>
-
-# and all gmane stuff should be posted directly
-# gmane does its own thing on it
-gmane.*:
-
-## Direct all other public hierarchies to the master moderator database.
-*:%<A HREF="https://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/mailman/listinfo/leafnode-list">s at moderators.isc.org</A>
-
-Even though (according to ~news/log-procmail) all messages seem to be
-running correctly, I don't get a message with moderated newsgroups.
-However, without moderating newsgroups, I don't know how to make work
-sending emails from leafnode to email.
-
-Any thoughts or help, please?
-
-Best,
-
-Mat&#283;j
-
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-&gt;<i> so now the real problem I am dealing with -- mail2news bidirectional
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-I tried everything, but I am just not able to make it working. So I have to
-ask again: is there any leafnode-style (aka &quot;for dummies&quot;) HOWTO for
-mail2news bi-directional gateway? The most far I got is that I have all my
-local newsgroups unmoderated, so I at least get messages to them. When I
-switch them to moderated, a) I don't get any messages to read, b) no
-messages are posted anyway. Details of how I tried (see above in this
-thread).
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-Can anybody help me please?
-
-Thanks a lot,
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-On Mon, Aug 14, 2006 at 11:14:01AM +0200, Matthias Andree wrote:
-> fetches group articles faster (thanks to pipelining ARTICLE or
-> HEAD/BODY commands).
-
-Which was a big issue when Cornelius and I worked on this in
-1999/2000 when many people still had expensive dial-up
-connections that were not fully utilized by fetchnews.
-
-> Official mail2news gatewaying isn't integrated and probably suffers from
-> the usual "Message-ID are unique per server" problem that impairs messages
-> sent to several lists at the same time. I don't know the state of J=F6rg
-> Dietrich's prior works or views on this either.
-
-I run a mail2news gateway for three or four mailing lists on my
-computer. I wrote a python programme for this. It is available
-from <http://www.astro.uni-bonn.de/~dietrich/mail2news/>. The
-program lacks documentation and testing by a wider audience,
-which is the reason for its "alpha status". However, the program
-has been working for me for the last 2 years without any need of
-intervention. But I have very little feedback from others.
-
-Mail2news.py tries to circumvent the problem of unique
-Message-IDs by cross-posting to newsgroups corresponding to the
-mailing lists the original mail was sent to. Because
-cross-mailing does not happen with the few mailing list I am
-subscribed to this feature is anything but well tested.
-
-> It is alpha because I don't care too much for compatibility between
-> leafnode-2 versions until I'm happy with it (not much work has been done
-> to leafnode-2 in the past weeks since I've been busy with difficult
-> fetchmail bug fixes). Else, I know of few bugs that hinder daily
-> personal use and am usually quick to fix bugs given the report is
-> substantiated (for instance, with a stack backtrace).
-
-As someone who contributed a substantial amount of code in the
-past, I find this a very frustrating status. Since 2000 leafnode-2
-provides significant improved features over leafnode-1. I have
-been using leafnode-2 in production mode for four or five years
-now. I really do not understand what keeps you from releasing it
-instead of keeping it in alpha stage for 5 years and still
-supporting leafnode-1, which has been technically obsoleted by
-many improvements in leafnode-2.
-
-Cheers,
- Jo:rg
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-From ceplm@seznam.cz Fri Sep 1 13:51:25 2006
-Message-Id: <pslks3xh02.ln2@chelcicky.vysocina>
-From: Matej Cepl <ceplm@seznam.cz>
-Subject: pygn as a mail2news gateway
-Newsgroups: gmane.network.leafnode
-Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:26:49 -0400
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-Hi,
-
-so now the real problem I am dealing with -- mail2news bidirectional
-gateway.
-
-On leafnode 1.* I used mail2news patch by Nikita Youschenko
-(http://zigzag.lvk.cs.msu.su/leafnode/ -- I wonder something like that has
-not been included in leafnode 2.*, it would make great fit IMHO, but I know
-I am not a programmer, and I won't do it, so I shut up on this), so I have
-to install some mail2news gateway. I tried pygn (just because it is
-packaged for Debian; any other suggestions?), but I haven't managed to
-configured it yet. This is what I did (with expected workflow):
-
-1) mail is read by my kmail (user matej) and if it is list message which
-should be gatewayed to news, it is bounced to news@localhost -- this step
-has been working perfectly for couple of years and it has not been changed.
-
-2) news' .procmailrc contains a lot of rules like this (for news2mail):
-
-ARG = $1
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-boston
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t discuss@blu.org -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-and like this (for mail2news):
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Id:.*pkg-lyx-devel.lists.alioth.debian.org
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.lyx-debian
-
-/etc/news/local.groups is this:
-
-local.mail.comp.cambridge m Cambridge (UK) LUG
-local.mail.comp.boston m Boston LUG
-local.mail.comp.surrey m Surrey LUG
-local.mail.comp.bosto-admin m Boston admins
-local.mail.comp.oxford m Oxford LUG
-local.mail.comp.lyx-debian m Maintainer of LyX on Debian
-local.mail.comp.scottish m Scottish LUG
-local.mail.comp.northwales m NWales LUG
-local.mail.comp.southwales m SWales LUG
-local.mail.comp.czdebian m Diskuse českých uživatel Debianu
-local.mail.vcfc.random m Random list z VCFC
-local.mail.vcfc.branik m Diskuse ČCE Braník
-local.mail.soc.oakeshott m Conversation -- discussion about Oakeshott
-local.mail.soc.read-only m různá RO sociologie
-local.mail.zpravy m NG pro různé zpravodajství
-local.test m testing group
-
-and this is /etc/news/moderators (w/o comments):
-
-## Public hierarchies with exceptions.
-fido7.*:%s@fido7.ru
-ffm.*:%s@moderators.arcornews.de
-fj.*:%s@moderators.fj-news.org
-medlux.*:%s@news.medlux.ru
-nl.*:%s@nl.net
-relcom.*:%s@moderators.relcom.ru
-ukr.*:%s@sita.kiev.ua
-
-# local groups are moderated by news@localhost
-local.*:news+%s@localhost
-
-# and all gmane stuff should be posted directly
-# gmane does its own thing on it
-gmane.*:
-
-## Direct all other public hierarchies to the master moderator database.
-*:%s@moderators.isc.org
-
-Even though (according to ~news/log-procmail) all messages seem to be
-running correctly, I don't get a message with moderated newsgroups.
-However, without moderating newsgroups, I don't know how to make work
-sending emails from leafnode to email.
-
-Any thoughts or help, please?
-
-Best,
-
-Matěj
-
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-Content-Type: text/plain; name=".procmailrc"
-Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8Bit
-Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=".procmailrc"
-
-PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin
-LOGFILE=$HOME/log-procmail
-VERBOSE=yes
-
-# Note: The $1 contains value only _IF_ procmail
-# is invoked with option -m or -a (with an argument).
-# Be sure procmail is invoked with that oprion either as from
-# LDA or ~/.forward.
-#
-# $1 is pseudo variable and it can't be used in condition line,
-# so we copy the value to ARG.
-
-ARG = $1
-
-#:0 fwh
-#* ! ^List-Post:
-#* ^Mailing-List:
-#| sed -e '/^-\{6,\}\s*Yahoo\!\s*Groups\s*Sponsor/,$d' yahoo-groups-message.txt \
-#| sed -e :a -e '/^\n*$/{$d;N;};/\n$/ba'
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-boston
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t discuss@blu.org -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-lyx-debian
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t pkg-lyx-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-boston
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t discuss@blu.org -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-bosto-admin
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t bblisa@bblisa.org -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-surrey
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t surrey@mailman.lug.org.uk -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-scottish
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t scottish@mailman.lug.org.uk -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-northwales
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t northwales@mailman.lug.org.uk -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-southwales
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t discuss@swlug.org -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-oxford
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t oxlug@lists.oxlug.org -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-cambridge
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t clug@cambridge-lug.org -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-comp-czdebian
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t czdebian-l@debian.cz -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-vcfc-random
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t vcfgb-random@yahoogroups.com -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-vcfc-branik
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t cebranik@pandora.cz -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-soc-goffman
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t goffman@mail.lsit.ucsb.edu -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-mail-soc-oakeshott
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t conversation@jiscmail.ac.uk -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ARG ?? local-test
-| pygn2m -l $HOME/log-pygn2m -d -t matej@localhost -s ceplm@seznam.cz
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^Subject: *test
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.test
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Id:.*pkg-lyx-devel.lists.alioth.debian.org
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.lyx-debian
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Id:.*discuss.blu.org
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.boston
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Id:.*bblisa.bblisa.org
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.bosto-admin
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Id:.*surrey.mailman.lug.org.uk
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.surrey
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Id:.*scottish.mailman.lug.org.uk
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.scottish
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Id:.*northwales.mailman.lug.org.uk
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.northwales
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Id:.*discuss.swlug.org
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.southwales
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Id:.*oxlug.lists.oxlug.org
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.oxford
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Id:.*clug.cambridge-lug.org
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.cambridge
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Id:.*czdebian-l.debian.cz
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.comp.czdebian
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^Mailing-List:.*(vcfgb|vcfc)-(announce|random)@yahoogroups.com
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.vcfc.random
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Post:.*cebranik@pandora.cz
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.vcfc.branik
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^List-Post:.*goffman.mail.lsit.ucsb.edu
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.soc.goffman
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^To:.*CONVERSATION@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.soc.oakeshott
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^To:.*(@JISCMAIL.AC.UK|PILN@COLUMBIA.EDU|UMD-LPBR-FULL@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU)
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.soc.read-only
-
-:0 bh:
-* ^From:.*(googlealerts-noreply@google.com|alerts@yahoo-inc.com|robot@radio.cz)
-| pygm2n -l $HOME/log-pygm2n -d -n local.mail.zpravy
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