On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 07:34:04PM +0100, jnrowe@gmail.com wrote:
> [This time to the list]
> 
> * W. Trevor King (wking@drexel.edu) wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 03:29:42PM +0100, James Rowe wrote:
> > >   Isn't there a bzr web interface that at least supports creating
> > > tarballs/zips?  It is pretty standard functionality for most other VCS'
> > > web interfaces so I'm guessing there must be, but loggerhead seems not
> > > to support it.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, people would still need bzr to install the versioned source:
> > 
> >   libbe/_version.py:
> >           bzr version-info --format python > $@
> 
>   I hadn't even seen that change go in.  The last upstream change in the
> version I have installed locally was by you on 2008-11-24.

It's only been in Chris' http://bzr.bugseverywhere.org/be/ branch
since revno: 321, 2009-06-25.  Obviously we may have to adjust the
--verison output once we settle on a versioning scheme, but whatever
we pick, I think having the auto-generated libbe/_version.py around
for pinpointing bugs is worth the trouble of requiring bzr when
building distribution tarballs.

> > So you'll need a "release" target in the makefile to build a bzr-less
> > install.  While you're at it, you should probably compile the manpage
> > too to remove the docbook-to-man dependency.
> 
>   Maybe for others.  Our packages just don't have the manpage as it is only
> the "be help" text reformatted, the easy option is sometimes the right
> one :)  Also, I've just noticed that it has even less documentation in
> the bzr tree[1] making its installation much less compelling unless your
> packaging rules require a man page like Debians.
> 
>   Out of curiosity why is the Makefile being used for this stuff anyway?
> It is going to make it difficult to build locally when we finally get
> around to merging.  Examples: If distutils was being used exclusively it
> would fix the #! lines in xml/*.  We'd be able to point Python
> $version_of_the_day at setup.py instead of having to sed the Makefile or
> run setup and manually install other files.

I speak Makefile better than I speak distutils ;).  I'm not sure how
to translate the be.1 generation/installation or the libbe/_version.py
generation into distutils.  Anyone else?

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