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+On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:36:26PM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
+> "W. Trevor King" <wking@drexel.edu> writes:
+> > I've switched my branch over to the current url, and moved to
+> > last-commit-timestamp version numbers.
+>
+> Please, no. Timestamps aren't version strings, that's conflating two
+> pieces of information with very different meanings. Correlating the two
+> is the job of a changelog.
+
+Which we don't bother keeping (also NEWS), since "bzr log" works so nicely.
+If you really want an standard changelog, see
+ http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2007-September/msg00186.html
+
+> > This removes the "prefered branch" issues with the old scheme, and
+> > version numbers should increase monotonically
+>
+> The English word “should” is ambiguous in this context. Are you saying
+> this is desirable, or are you predicting that it will likely be the
+> case?
+
+Both.
+
+> I don't see how it's either, so am doubly confused :-)
+
+The timestamp should at least replace the patch release number, which
+you agree is-desirable-to increase motonically ;). I also predict
+that it will increase monotonically for any given branch, since the
+branch HEAD will have both the most recent commit and the highest
+version number. The only problem I can think of is having your clock
+_way_ off, and that is unlikely enough to ignore. If you hop between
+branches, the timestamp is much more likely to increase going to the
+more modern branch than the bzr revision number, which desynchronize
+between branches fairly quickly.
+
+> The convention for three-part version strings is often:
+>
+> * Major release number (big changes in how the program works,
+> increasing monotonically per major release, with “0”indicating no
+> major release yet)
+>
+> * Minor release number (smaller impact on how the program works,
+> increasing monotonically per minor release, with “0” indicating no
+> minor release yet since the previous major)
+>
+> * Patch release number (bug-fix and other changes that don't affect
+> the documented interface, increasing monotonically per patch
+> release, with “0” indicating no patch release since the previous
+> major or minor)
+
+One problem is that we don't actually have "releases". People just
+clone a branch, install, and go. If you're worried about stability,
+just clone from a more stable branch (i.e., Chris' trunk). I think
+this is good for distributed development, but maybe makes it hard to
+package into a conventional release-based system. With the bzr patch
+number in setup.py as the patch release number, I would be releasing
+my 0.1.363 while Chris releases his 0.1.314, even though they're at
+about the same point. I would rather be releasing my
+ 0.1.20090714121347
+while Chris releases his
+ 0.1.20090713154540
+Since then the similarity is clearer.
+
+At any rate, I think the two approaches are close enough that an
+auto-updating timestamp beats a manually bumped patch number, since
+no-one ever actually bumps the patch number ;).
+
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+Alt-id: <20090714133732.GB6160@mjolnir.home.net>
+
+
+Author: W. Trevor King <wking@drexel.edu>
+
+
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+Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:37:32 -0400
+
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+In-reply-to: 744435b7-1521-4059-a55d-f0c403d7b4d8
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