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+On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 07:34:04PM +0100, jnrowe@gmail.com wrote:
+> [This time to the list]
+>
+> * W. Trevor King (wking@drexel.edu) wrote:
+> > On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 03:29:42PM +0100, James Rowe wrote:
+> > > Isn't there a bzr web interface that at least supports creating
+> > > tarballs/zips? It is pretty standard functionality for most other VCS'
+> > > web interfaces so I'm guessing there must be, but loggerhead seems not
+> > > to support it.
+> >
+> > Unfortunately, people would still need bzr to install the versioned source:
+> >
+> > libbe/_version.py:
+> > bzr version-info --format python > $@
+>
+> I hadn't even seen that change go in. The last upstream change in the
+> version I have installed locally was by you on 2008-11-24.
+
+It's only been in Chris' http://bzr.bugseverywhere.org/be/ branch
+since revno: 321, 2009-06-25. Obviously we may have to adjust the
+--verison output once we settle on a versioning scheme, but whatever
+we pick, I think having the auto-generated libbe/_version.py around
+for pinpointing bugs is worth the trouble of requiring bzr when
+building distribution tarballs.
+
+> > So you'll need a "release" target in the makefile to build a bzr-less
+> > install. While you're at it, you should probably compile the manpage
+> > too to remove the docbook-to-man dependency.
+>
+> Maybe for others. Our packages just don't have the manpage as it is only
+> the "be help" text reformatted, the easy option is sometimes the right
+> one :) Also, I've just noticed that it has even less documentation in
+> the bzr tree[1] making its installation much less compelling unless your
+> packaging rules require a man page like Debians.
+>
+> Out of curiosity why is the Makefile being used for this stuff anyway?
+> It is going to make it difficult to build locally when we finally get
+> around to merging. Examples: If distutils was being used exclusively it
+> would fix the #! lines in xml/*. We'd be able to point Python
+> $version_of_the_day at setup.py instead of having to sed the Makefile or
+> run setup and manually install other files.
+
+I speak Makefile better than I speak distutils ;). I'm not sure how
+to translate the be.1 generation/installation or the libbe/_version.py
+generation into distutils. Anyone else?
+
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+Alt-id: <20090714191145.GB10606@mjolnir.home.net>
+
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+Author: W. Trevor King <wking@drexel.edu>
+
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+Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:11:45 -0400
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+In-reply-to: 6e315abe-a080-4369-8729-4aea2dee8494
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