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authorW. Trevor King <wking@drexel.edu>2009-07-21 15:22:09 -0400
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I imported a few threads from the mailing list as wishlist bugs.
12c:uw: Bug aggregation. Multi-repo meta-BE? 529:ow: How should we version BE? 2f0:aw: Static html report generation 22b:aw: Sorting targets chronologically d99:aw: CherryPy interface "Cherry-flavored BE" e08:aw: Interactive email interface
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+Hi,
+
+ > http://bitbucket.org/sjl/cherryflavoredbugseverywhere/
+
+Cool! I've set up a copy here:
+
+ http://bugsweb.bugseverywhere.org/
+
+(Since we don't have any open bugs lately, click "Closed" at the top,
+or create some, but don't expect them to persist if you do.)
+
+ > anyone has any feedback (on any aspect of it) I'd appreciate it.
+
+I'm pretty enthusiastic about merging this and then working on it
+further.
+
+Thanks,
+
+- Chris.
+--
+Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
+
+_______________________________________________
+Be-devel mailing list
+Be-devel@bugseverywhere.org
+http://void.printf.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/be-devel
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+Alt-id: <m3eisxtgfx.fsf@pullcord.laptop.org>
+
+
+Content-type: text/plain
+
+
+Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:55:30 -0400
+
+
+From: Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
+
+
+In-reply-to: 2496ccca-130b-4459-bfae-9d9ef0138177
+
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+Hi everyone. I found Bugs Everywhere and really like the idea of
+distributed bug tracking. I felt like practicing building a CherryPy
+site so I put together a quick web interface to BE. I know there's
+already a TurboGears one in the works, but I needed an excuse to try
+out CherryPy again after working with Django for a while.
+
+Would any of you be willing to take a look at what I've got so far and
+tell me what you think I could improve?
+
+To install and use it:
+
+* Install CherryPy from http://cherrypy.org/ if you don't have it.
+* Install Jinja2 from http://jinja.pocoo.org/2/ if you don't have it.
+* Install BugsEverywhere - you probably know how to do this :)
+* Download a zip/tar of my project (or hg clone) from http://bitbucket.org/sjl/cherryflavoredbugseverywhere/
+* Unzip my project and put the folder in your Python site-packages
+directory.
+* Symlink site-packages/cherryflavoredbugseverywhere/cfbe.py to /usr/
+local/bin/cfbe
+* Use the "cfbe [project_root]" command to start up the web interface
+for that project.
+* Visit http://localhost:8080/ in a browser.
+
+I know that's a lot of steps. I'd like to streamline it quite a bit,
+but first I wanted to see if you have any feedback on the system
+itself. Thanks!
+
+--
+Steve Losh
+http://stevelosh.com/
+
+_______________________________________________
+Be-devel mailing list
+Be-devel@bugseverywhere.org
+http://void.printf.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/be-devel
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+Alt-id: <272FECFE-D16B-47B7-B39A-E2C8A718CCC5@stevelosh.com>
+
+
+Content-type: text/plain
+
+
+Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 16:30:33 -0500
+
+
+From: Steve Losh <steve@stevelosh.com>
+
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+Those are beautiful templates -- can you share those? I'd love to
+study the HTML and CSS behind them.
+
+On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Steve Losh <steve@stevelosh.com> wrote:
+> Hey Chris, thanks for the comments.
+>
+>>
+>> My initial impression is that this looks good enough already to merge as
+>> a replacement for the turbogears site. What does everyone else think?
+>>
+>
+> I'm not quite sure it's there yet. There are a bunch of bugs I've got
+> marked as "beta" that I'd like to see fixed before it's ready for real use.
+> Hopefully they shouldn't be too tough to fix. You can point CFBE at itself
+> to see them. :)
+>
+>> Could you explain a little about how you handle authorship of bug
+>> changes at the moment, and if it looks plausible to try making it
+>> multiuser? (Having it handle more than one "user" logged in at once.)
+>>
+>
+> That's something I need advice on. Right now CFBE is pretty much only
+> suitable for local use - you check out whatever you're working on and use it
+> as a local interface to the bugs in the repository. Change those, check in,
+> etc. It's effectively just a pretty version of the command line be tool.
+>
+> I haven't used CherryPy's session/authentication support before. This might
+> be a good time for me to learn. One way it might be able to handle multiple
+> users hitting a central server:
+>
+> * Each user has to register with the server and be approved by an admin.
+> * Each account would be mapped to a contributor string, the same one that
+> would show up if you were going to commit to the repository.
+> * Once you have an account, you'd login to make any changes.
+>
+>
+> Aside from all that, I'm a little fuzzy on how a centralized interface to a
+> distributed bug tracking system should work. A read-only interface to a
+> central "main" repository would be easy. Run the server in read-only mode
+> pointing at the main repository. People can use it to look at the bugs in
+> the tip of that repository.
+>
+> If it's not read-only, what happens when a user changes/adds/whatevers a
+> bug? Should CFBE commit that change to the repository right then and there?
+> Should it never commit, just update the bugdir and let the commits happen
+> manually?
+>
+> What happens when you have multiple branches for a repository? Should there
+> be one CFBE instance for each branch, or a single one that lets you switch
+> between branches (effectively switching between revisions)?
+>
+> Those are the kind of things that don't really apply when CFBE is just a
+> local interface to a single repository. If anyone has any advice on how a
+> multi-user interface should work I'd love to hear it!
+>
+> --
+> Steve Losh
+> http://stevelosh.com/
+>
+>
+> _______________________________________________
+> Be-devel mailing list
+> Be-devel@bugseverywhere.org
+> http://void.printf.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/be-devel
+>
+
+
+
+--
+Matthew Wilson
+matt@tplus1.com
+http://tplus1.com
+
+_______________________________________________
+Be-devel mailing list
+Be-devel@bugseverywhere.org
+http://void.printf.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/be-devel
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+Alt-id: <f6f643a20902071531y6aa3d7a6k7c5a4bd4aa5a04f6@mail.gmail.com>
+
+
+Content-type: text/plain
+
+
+Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 18:31:04 -0500
+
+
+From: Matthew Wilson <matt@tplus1.com>
+
+
+In-reply-to: 21c90231-d7f2-49bb-97d9-99e16459d799
+
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@@ -0,0 +1,62 @@
+Hey Chris, thanks for the comments.
+
+>
+> My initial impression is that this looks good enough already to
+> merge as
+> a replacement for the turbogears site. What does everyone else think?
+>
+
+I'm not quite sure it's there yet. There are a bunch of bugs I've got
+marked as "beta" that I'd like to see fixed before it's ready for real
+use. Hopefully they shouldn't be too tough to fix. You can point
+CFBE at itself to see them. :)
+
+> Could you explain a little about how you handle authorship of bug
+> changes at the moment, and if it looks plausible to try making it
+> multiuser? (Having it handle more than one "user" logged in at once.)
+>
+
+That's something I need advice on. Right now CFBE is pretty much only
+suitable for local use - you check out whatever you're working on and
+use it as a local interface to the bugs in the repository. Change
+those, check in, etc. It's effectively just a pretty version of the
+command line be tool.
+
+I haven't used CherryPy's session/authentication support before. This
+might be a good time for me to learn. One way it might be able to
+handle multiple users hitting a central server:
+
+* Each user has to register with the server and be approved by an admin.
+* Each account would be mapped to a contributor string, the same one
+that would show up if you were going to commit to the repository.
+* Once you have an account, you'd login to make any changes.
+
+
+Aside from all that, I'm a little fuzzy on how a centralized interface
+to a distributed bug tracking system should work. A read-only
+interface to a central "main" repository would be easy. Run the
+server in read-only mode pointing at the main repository. People can
+use it to look at the bugs in the tip of that repository.
+
+If it's not read-only, what happens when a user changes/adds/whatevers
+a bug? Should CFBE commit that change to the repository right then
+and there? Should it never commit, just update the bugdir and let the
+commits happen manually?
+
+What happens when you have multiple branches for a repository? Should
+there be one CFBE instance for each branch, or a single one that lets
+you switch between branches (effectively switching between revisions)?
+
+Those are the kind of things that don't really apply when CFBE is just
+a local interface to a single repository. If anyone has any advice on
+how a multi-user interface should work I'd love to hear it!
+
+--
+Steve Losh
+http://stevelosh.com/
+
+
+_______________________________________________
+Be-devel mailing list
+Be-devel@bugseverywhere.org
+http://void.printf.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/be-devel
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+Alt-id: <D765386C-4D43-4AE0-83E3-986A1CB4008C@stevelosh.com>
+
+
+Content-type: text/plain
+
+
+Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:48:06 -0500
+
+
+From: Steve Losh <steve@stevelosh.com>
+
+
+In-reply-to: 42d57a41-219f-46db-9fda-21b42351da63
+
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+Speaking of that interface, I changed up the look and feel a bit last
+weekend. It's still at http://bitbucket.org/sjl/cherryflavoredbugseverywhere/
+ -- if anyone has any feedback (on any aspect of it) I'd appreciate it.
+
+--
+Steve
+
+On Jul 3, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Chris Ball wrote:
+
+> Hi Gianluca,
+>
+>> As i said in a previous mail, I am working on a "html" command
+>> for be. The goal is to be able to do something like "be html
+>> /web/page" to have in the /web/page directory some static html
+>> pages that basically are the dump of the be repository, much like
+>> ditz have. This will enable a simple and fast publish of the bus
+>> list and details on the web, at least in read only mode.
+>
+> It might be a good idea for "be html" to use the CherryPy web
+> interface
+> that Steve is working on. The command could start up the CherryPy app
+> and scrape all of the available pages to get a stand-alone dump; this
+> would avoid having to keep two (okay, more than two at this point)
+> separate sets of HTML templates in the source tree. What do you
+> think?
+>
+>> 2) I see that every command is implemented with a python file in
+>> the becommand dir. For a better code, I'd like to split the
+>> command implementation into two files: a file that contain the
+>> actual code and a second file that have the html related part,
+>> any problem with this ? I don't like to have the html part and
+>> the code part in one big and unreadable file.
+>
+> I agree that becommands/*.py commands should not contain any HTML
+> layout code. Putting it somewhere else instead sounds fine.
+>
+> Thanks!
+>
+> - Chris.
+> --
+> Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
+>
+> _______________________________________________
+> Be-devel mailing list
+> Be-devel@bugseverywhere.org
+> http://void.printf.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/be-devel
+
+
+_______________________________________________
+Be-devel mailing list
+Be-devel@bugseverywhere.org
+http://void.printf.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/be-devel
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+Alt-id: <4701D71B-A14D-4C63-ABCC-E7E5FFE4E4BA@stevelosh.com>
+
+
+Content-type: text/plain
+
+
+Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:34:51 -0400
+
+
+From: Steve Losh <steve@stevelosh.com>
+
+
+In-reply-to: 16357f68-19c0-4bf9-8220-b88b52b3456d
+
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@@ -0,0 +1,32 @@
+Hi Steve,
+
+ > Hi everyone. I found Bugs Everywhere and really like the idea of
+ > distributed bug tracking. I felt like practicing building a
+ > CherryPy site so I put together a quick web interface to BE. I
+ > know there's already a TurboGears one in the works, but I needed an
+ > excuse to try out CherryPy again after working with Django for a
+ > while.
+
+This looks awesome, thanks! I've taken some screenshots for others to
+see:
+
+http://chris.printf.net/cfbe-main.png
+http://chris.printf.net/cfbe-detail.png
+
+My initial impression is that this looks good enough already to merge as
+a replacement for the turbogears site. What does everyone else think?
+
+Could you explain a little about how you handle authorship of bug
+changes at the moment, and if it looks plausible to try making it
+multiuser? (Having it handle more than one "user" logged in at once.)
+
+Great work, thanks!
+
+- Chris.
+--
+Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
+
+_______________________________________________
+Be-devel mailing list
+Be-devel@bugseverywhere.org
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+Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2009 17:19:22 -0500
+
+
+From: Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
+
+
+In-reply-to: 16357f68-19c0-4bf9-8220-b88b52b3456d
+
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+Hi,
+
+ > Works for me. I've done this now, which closes the last open bug
+ > in my repo :D.
+
+Wow. Congrats! I've merged your branch.
+
+ > All the new functionality comes from bug.extra_strings, which
+ > provides a list for storing arbitrary strings in the bug's
+ > permanent state.
+
+That's going to be really useful.
+
+ > Next up: regexp searching for list --extra-strings! ;).
+
+Awesome.
+
+ > Oh, and obviously there must still be bugs in BE. Please submit
+ > more ;).
+
+Perhaps it's a good time to merge Steve Losh's CherryPy web interface?
+
+http://void.printf.net/pipermail/be-devel/2009-February/000095.html
+http://bitbucket.org/sjl/cherryflavoredbugseverywhere/
+
+Thanks,
+
+- Chris.
+--
+Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
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+Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:02:44 -0400
+
+
+From: Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org>
+
+
+In-reply-to: 16357f68-19c0-4bf9-8220-b88b52b3456d
+
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+On Jun 25, 2009, at 10:02 AM, Chris Ball <cjb@laptop.org> wrote:
+>
+>> Oh, and obviously there must still be bugs in BE. Please submit
+>> more ;).
+>
+> Perhaps it's a good time to merge Steve Losh's CherryPy web interface?
+>
+> http://void.printf.net/pipermail/be-devel/2009-February/000095.html
+> http://bitbucket.org/sjl/cherryflavoredbugseverywhere/
+>
+
+Hey, I haven't touched the web interface in a while, but I should have
+some time to fix some stuff up tonight and tomorrow. Hold off on
+merging it in until then.
+
+I'm still curious as to what people think the role of a web interface
+like this should be. When I wrote it I meant it as a single-user
+interface like the command line one. It could definitely work as a
+public, read-only interface too.
+
+If the goal is to allow more than one person to add issues, how should
+commits go? One commit per change? Commit every X minutes if necessary?
+
+--
+Steve
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+Alt-id: <26FBD153-39C5-4641-AF5E-749731964086@stevelosh.com>
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+Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:23:04 -0400
+
+
+From: Steve Losh <steve@stevelosh.com>
+
+
+In-reply-to: 5e339bac-f4f3-407b-974a-b88795d3573b
+
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+On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 05:48:06PM -0500, Steve Losh wrote:
+>> My initial impression is that this looks good enough already to merge as
+>> a replacement for the turbogears site. What does everyone else think?
+>
+> I'm not quite sure it's there yet. There are a bunch of bugs I've
+> got marked as "beta" that I'd like to see fixed before it's ready
+> for real use. Hopefully they shouldn't be too tough to fix. You
+> can point CFBE at itself to see them. :)
+
+Steve's also versioning it with Mercurial. Will he mind changing to
+Bazaar?
+
+Steve, I've touched up CFBE to work with my current BE branch. Some
+of the changes apply to the trunk BE, and hopefully the rest will
+soon. I think the version-naming issue is what's currently blocking
+their adoption ;). I've put up my CFBE branch at
+ static-http://www.physics.drexel.edu/~wking/code/hg/cfbe
+for Mercurial.
+
+Everyone, should CFBE-specific discussions move off-list? More
+generally, I've been sending in lots of what-I'm-working on messages,
+but not hearing much back, so let me know if I'm being too obnoxious,
+and I'll shut up (or at least move more off-list) ;).
+
+Cheers,
+Trevor
+
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+Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:59:07 -0400
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+From: '"W. Trevor King" <wking@drexel.edu>'
+
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+In-reply-to: 21c90231-d7f2-49bb-97d9-99e16459d799
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+On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:23:04AM -0400, Steve Losh wrote:
+> I'm still curious as to what people think the role of a web interface like
+> this should be. When I wrote it I meant it as a single-user interface like
+> the command line one. It could definitely work as a public, read-only
+> interface too.
+
+I think the multi-user/public is the way to go. I'd also like to see
+a procmail-able script to handle multi-user/public access via email,
+which would have all the same issues we're worrying about here.
+
+On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 05:48:06PM -0500, Steve Losh wrote:
+> I haven't used CherryPy's session/authentication support before. This
+> might be a good time for me to learn. One way it might be able to handle
+> multiple users hitting a central server:
+>
+> * Each user has to register with the server and be approved by an admin.
+> * Each account would be mapped to a contributor string, the same one that
+> would show up if you were going to commit to the repository.
+> * Once you have an account, you'd login to make any changes.
+
+This sounds good to me. Yay spam reduction ;).
+
+> If it's not read-only, what happens when a user changes/adds/whatevers a
+> bug? Should CFBE commit that change to the repository right then and
+> there? Should it never commit, just update the bugdir and let the commits
+> happen manually?
+
+On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:23:04AM -0400, Steve Losh wrote:
+> One commit per change? Commit every X minutes if necessary?
+
+On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 05:48:06PM -0500, Steve Losh wrote:
+> What happens when you have multiple branches for a repository? Should
+> there be one CFBE instance for each branch, or a single one that lets you
+> switch between branches (effectively switching between revisions)?
+
+There are interesting discussions about the role of distributed
+bugtracking here (I'm sure there are others):
+ http://lwn.net/Articles/281849/
+ http://community.livejournal.com/evan_tech/248736.html
+
+Personally, I've never done much cherry-picking or anything that would
+require me to determine exactly which parts of someone's work I want
+and which I don't want. I just merge someone's head and edit out the
+bits I don't like, a process that also works well for our current
+"commit however you want" BE development model ;). Maybe that just
+shows that I only work on minor branches of small projects :p. In the
+absence of big-project advice, I think we just limit the web front end
+to our current model, and let the web interface commit however it
+wants as well ;). +1 for adding a <commit> button to the web
+interface ;).
+
+One caveat about a multi-user interface would be that it would allow
+the casual users to commit bugs about whatever version they had
+installed onto the head of the public-bug branch. In order to figure
+out what version of the project they were talking about, the project
+should have a way for the user to get a unique version string, ideally
+be the bzr-revision-id/git-commit/etc. of the commit for the version
+they were using. This would allow developers to determine what branch
+to work on with the bug fix, and what branches needed to pull the
+eventual fix. If the initially reported buggy version wasn't actually
+the root of the bug, oh well :p. Material for a later related bug
+report or a reopen.
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+From: '"W. Trevor King" <wking@drexel.edu>'
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